Autocross

Christopher.Borland@PSS.Boeing.com

04/23/2001 06:09 PM

Hi Gang -
Has anybody out there had experience doing autocross in a 356?
I had my first autocross experience this weekend (in a borrowed Miata)
and it was a blast. After 42 years of driving I find I have to learn all over again!
I was wondering if any of the Faithful do this in a 356. Would it be possible to
be competative (or at least have a good time) in a nearly-40 year old car?
What would need to be done to make it safe and practical, both for me and
the car? How well do the swing axles perform in these type of maneuvers?
Is this a really stupid idea, or what?
If a 356 would not be the best, what would you suggest (no I can't afford a new
boxster)?
Regards,
Chris
356-C, still up on jacks (driving this summer, maybe?)

dlamak@nni.com

04/23/2001 07:15 PM

You drove the car that's best, at least in c or b stock, and they do well in
PAX. Boxsters (mine too) are very competitive in A stock. I will run my 356
B super in PCA events for fun, but they are NOT competritive in SCCA Solo 2.
Planning to run the 356 this Sunday with Riesentoter Region.
Dennis A from PA
PS It has 5 1/2 in. rims with 185/60 Dunlops.
-----Original Message-----
From: Borland, Christopher J
To: '356talk@356registry.org' <356talk@356registry.org>
Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:10 PM
Subject: Autocross

>Hi Gang -
over again!
possible to
new


David.Jones@premcor.com

04/23/2001 06:23 PM

If you want to autocross and win there is only one way to go. 914. The SCCA
tried more than once to make it uncompetitive but failed. It has for years
been the most consistently fast car out there. A 356 is also competitive in
the hands of a good driver but you would need to get it fully sorted. Use a
coupe not a convertible, the open cars bend too much.
H. David Jones
Process Analyzer Specialist
Premcor, Lima Refinery
1150 S Metcalf St.
Lima, Ohio. 45804
Tel. # 419 226 2319
cell 419 233 0247
fax 419 226 2554
Pager 419 226 2158

-----Original Message-----
From: Borland, Christopher J [mailto:Christopher.Borland@PSS.Boeing.com]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:10 PM
To: '356talk@356registry.org'
Subject: Autocross

Hi Gang -
Has anybody out there had experience doing autocross in a 356?
I had my first autocross experience this weekend (in a borrowed Miata)
and it was a blast. After 42 years of driving I find I have to learn all
over again!
I was wondering if any of the Faithful do this in a 356. Would it be
possible to
be competative (or at least have a good time) in a nearly-40 year old car?
What would need to be done to make it safe and practical, both for me and
the car? How well do the swing axles perform in these type of maneuvers?
Is this a really stupid idea, or what?
If a 356 would not be the best, what would you suggest (no I can't afford a
new
boxster)?
Regards,
Chris
356-C, still up on jacks (driving this summer, maybe?)

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dlamak@nni.com

04/23/2001 07:28 PM

This is no longer true since "built engines" were outlawed. I have not seen,
at least on a national level, any 914s winning. They are still great for PCA
events. I know cause I ran one in C stock then was moved to B. You ain't
gonna bea t the Miatas in B. A 1.7 liter could run in C stock but MR2s would
clobber it. But try to find a 914 without a "built engine".
-----Original Message-----
From: Jones, David
To: 'Borland, Christopher J' ;
'356talk@356registry.org' <356talk@356registry.org>
Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Autocross

>If you want to autocross and win there is only one way to go. 914. The SCCA


DUBYAD15@aol.com

04/26/2001 09:26 AM

<in Autocross. Here is the consensus:
1) A 356 would not be competitive in SCCA Solo II. The more modern cars
in E-Stock (such as Neon's) would eat it up. However it might be fun just
to take it out for the experience and the looks you get.
2) It could be competitive in PCA events in AS class, running against
912's and 1.7L 914's. Camber compensator suggested + 185's on 5.5 in.
3) Would contribute to a lot more wear and tear if done regularly. A cheap
914 for just this purpose might be more practical (and a better competitor).>>
I would never seriously compete in anything in a car I really liked. The
competition becomes the focus, and the car falls from being a raison d'etre
to just a tool to help you win. I have tried concours and I spent several
years autocrossing my Porsches. In every case you seem to have to compromise
the "fun" aspect of owning the car to the demands of competition. If you
really want to have fun with your 356, consider focusing on your point #1 and
regarding the occasional autocross (victorious or not) as just another fun
activity you engage in. If you want to win at competition, you are probably
better off going with #3 in a really nasty looking 914. JMHO.
Pat Ertel