Sterling,
Level is OK but the reason to have the chassis in a slight
nose down attitude is level the car when accelerating. When
you step on the gas the nose will rise. Also nose down
transfers weight to the front and helps with braking.

Alan

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I'm real curious to know how your slammed and dropped Pre-A rides, on normal streets, at speed, etc. Also what is the effect of the cambered/decambered rear wheels? Thanks for a response.

Charlie White
Scottsdale, Arizona

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Charlie White

Nose down attitude also increases caster which increases straight line stability.

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"Nose down attitude also increases caster which increases straight
line stability.
JIM"

No. It *decreases* caster and I'm not even going to mention what that 5* of rear neg camber does to stability.
Thanks,
Ron LaDow

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Ron is right, it decreases caster which decreases straight line stability and will make the wheels try to flop to the side when turning. Can also lead to over steer and twitchy steering.

I wouldnt think the 5* of rear camber is going to be as big an issue as incorrect toe from lowering the rear of a swing axle car. Extended spring plates are often needed to correct this.

I am sure this 356 rides just fine, adding dropped spindles does not change spring rate or suspension geometry.

Chees!

All those years of racing in the 60's with the nose high and 2° of neg. camber attaining 550 And RSK lap times thinking we had it right and now it's wrong !
Talk to us Bruce or do you still disagree too.

Norm

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Thanks for all the kind words guys.
I knew not everyone would like it, but I wasn't building it for anyone but myself.




If I wanted to build a race car, I would have. I wanted a lay'd out Pre-A on Fuchs (5.5's and Nor Cal King Crabs) that I could cruise around town in, so that's what I built. I may go racer car with the rusty one.

The response I got from the VW Classic this weekend was ridiculous. More praise then I ever thought and the crowd of people that swarmed around it everywhere I took it was justification to me for all the long hours, headaches, bumps, and money spent to get it there.

Now that I am home I will fine tune it a bit and drive it as my daily before I get crazy with a restoration.



Rides like your typical lay'd out VW which is fine / normal for me anyway. I'm a little different then the typical Pre-A owner I guess. I didn't downgrade from a 911 into a poor handling outdated suspension Pre-A, I upgraded from a VW to a Pre-A so the ride, stance, camber, etc. is fine with me.

I'm sure I'll have it out in he Phoenix area for one of the VW shows at some point. Find me and I hand you the keys so you can take it for a spin.

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WOW! After seeing Gregory's '54 gets me thinking of keepin' my '52 and slammin' it with REAL magnesium American Torque Thrust "D"s! Mr. Okrasa 8)

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GREG, SUPER NICE JOB. I REALLY REALLY REALLY LIKE IT. JUST BOUGHT A 54 COUPE. IT SORTA REMINDS ME OF THE GMUNDMEISTERS GMUND. I LOVE EM BOTH.
MY 54 IS MORE OUTLAW THAN STOCK.





I GUESS I BETTER GET IT RUNNING FIRST.

MICHAEL B

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"I am sure this 356 rides just fine, adding dropped spindles does
not change spring rate or suspension geometry."


And I'll bet it rides just fine with the rear axels against the bump stops.
Thanks,
Ron LaDow

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Ron, you dont need to post here as well as email me directly. Maybe youre right and the car is sitting on the bump stops with no more travel than the sidewall of the tire. In which case you are right, the car would ride poorly!

man, all lowered cars suck!

Jake,
"Ron, you dont need to post here as well as email me directly."

I didn't. I made a public reply to a public comment. I think the software also sends one to you.
Thanks,
Ron LaDow

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ahh, my apologies..I am learning how this forum works. Why does it send me an email with the message text as well? Can I turn this function off?

Massive amount of travel in the rear.

What are bump stops? Those aren't found on a Pre-A.

For those of you that don't know me, I'm not one of those make it look cool but ride like crap kind of people. I like the best of both worlds, so all of my cars ride nice aswell as sit low.

Once again, I understand not everyone likes it, but I didn't build the car for you either.

Joe - I'd be glad to give you a hand with the '52.

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Looks great greg
Keeps me pushing on mine.